Showing posts with label wedding. Show all posts
Showing posts with label wedding. Show all posts

Monday, January 10, 2011

Tips for Finding the Perfect Wedding Venue - Part Two

Hope everyone had a great weekend and was able to read Part One of my Tips for Finding the Perfect Wedding Venue! Part Two is here....so here we go!

Valet
Some venues include this as a complimentary service and others out source.  Find out either way and what the cost per person is.  Providing a valet service for your guests is a nice gesture, but not always necessary. You might be able to add this a week or two before your wedding date after all the money dust has settled and you know where your budget is.  Find out if that’s the case a head of time and if there are any extra fees for booking the valet at the last minute.

Special meals
Let's face it we all have friends that are picky eaters so find out what their veggie choice is, can the venue do kosher meals and what the cost is.  Also find out the cost of kids meals and what they serve.  Another question you should ask is if they allow outside food. Some won't even allow you to bring in outside cookies as a favor. Or if your aunt is making the cake they may say no.  So find out before so there are no surprises!

Vendor Meals
So many of my clients forget this, but the truth is you should feed your on site vendors such as the band, photographer and planner.  Find out the cost for a warm meal (preferred by most vendors - trust me) and a cold meal.  Remember well fed vendors create happy vendors which creates a fabulous wedding!

Tastings
This is one area I have a professional issue with - some venues do and some venues don’t offer tastings.  Some venues say they don't because their food is spectacular and they have never had an issue.  I say that's great but what if you and your family don't like spicy food and the salad dressing is too garlicky the night of?  You will have a lot of unhappy guests that will forever talk about how bad the food was.  So I always opt for a tasting.  It's the perfect time to collaborate with the chef and make sure you are getting exactly what you want and are paying for.  Now don't be surprised if they won't do a tasting until you have signed the contract and paid a deposit I can't blame them for not handing out free meals.  If you are weary of doing that find out what the cost would be to do a tasting before signing the contract.  You never know they might let you do it.  I know many venues will give me a lot of flack here, but in the end your guests talk about the food especially if it's not what you want.  It's your right to try the food!

Cake
Some venues include the cake and some do not - so get some clarity.  If they do provide the cake it may be an outside baker where the venue pays them for certain style cake.  In most cases it will cost you more to have the cake decorated a specific way. Ask to speak to the bakery to see if they can accommodate your design and if so are there extra costs.  Most likely this is one area where the venue may not negotiate.

Vendor Lists
Almost all venues have a vendor list they want you to work from.  This is a great thing and a bad thing.  Great because it helps you narrow down who to go to and in most cases the vendors have a stellar record.  But it is also bad because you may want to fly in a band from Miami and the venue won't let you.  Find out before how strict their policy is to allowing you to bring in outside vendors.  If they say you can bring outside vendors other than those recommended then get it in writing in your contract.

Insurance
This is one area that can get tricky so ask your venue if you need to take out an additional insurance policy naming them as an additionally insured.  In most cases you don’t have to, but you don’t want to get surprised after signing the contract that you have to take out a special rider on your homeowners policy just so you can throw your wedding.  As a vendor myself I must carry insurance and very often have to name the venue as an additionally insured.  In fact you should check with all your prospective vendors and make sure they have event insurance.  Your cousin may be a great DJ, but if he doesn't have insurance he won't be allowed to play at your wedding.  So find out what the parameters are.

Electric costs
Some venues require that you pay for electric or pay for additional electric.  Ask up front and then ask your vendors (band / DJ / photographer / videographer) if they will require excessive amounts of power.  Relay that to your venue. Changes are okay with most venue, but you never know.  Also ask your venue if the power is new or old and if they have multiple circuits.  So often the venue says it's not an issue we clear it with them, but then a circuit trips right in the middle of the first dance and the band goes dead. It's a nightmare but it happens because people forget to ask.

Doing a site visit - time - canceling - bathrooms - handicap -
Most of the questions above are really for when you do a site visit one on one with the venue representative.  A few things to remember: always try to be on time, if late let them know.  They keep super busy schedules and it's nice to be courteous to them just like you expect them to be with you.  If you must reschedule or if you don't want to look at the space anymore, just let them know. When looking at the venue look and see if there is a bridal room.  Is the venue handicap accessible for grandma?  What do the bathrooms look like?

Contact the day of
Very often the person who books your event is not the person who is on site the day of your wedding.  Therefore, ask who will be on site to trouble shoot any issues you have.  If you want a specific person just ask, but remember they can make no guarantees.

Hotel Venues
Some, but not all hotel venues may offer a complimentary bridal suite the night of the event.  If they do that’s fabulous news!  However, be sure to ask when you can check into the suite.  In some cases you can't get in until 3pm.  That may be too late for you.  So you may want to opt and book your suite the night before.  It's nice waking up in your suite knowing you don't have to rush to get ready!  Also when booking with your hotel venue ask if there are any conventions in town or are they expecting large bookings.  There may be nothing worse than finding out it's the national kazoo convention at your hotel.  Finally ask if they can do a room block for your wedding guests.  Very often they will do this at a lesser cost as a compliment to bringing them a large amount of business.

These questions may all seem a bit overcautious, but then again as a planner that's my job!  Just remember not everything is negotiable, be courteous, and be thorough. 

Until next time - Cheers!

Friday, January 7, 2011

Tips for Finding the Perfect Wedding Venue - Part One

Finding the perfect wedding venue can be as daunting as finding the perfect wedding gown. Very often I have couples that walk through my door with their venue already signed, sealed and delivered.  This is great except when I begin asking them questions about their contract or the venue that they can't answer.  By not asking the right questions this can actually cost you more money and cost your vendors more time.

So I thought I would put together a list of questions we typically ask over the phone when looking for venues for our clients. I had so many thoughts to share that I have broken it down into two parts. So here it goes… part one!

Date Availability
First and foremost ask if they have your date available.  If looking for an evening wedding be sure to stress "evening".  Some venues do two weddings a day and they might be booked for the evening but have the morning or afternoon available.  Getting straight to the point as this will save you and them time.

Friday vs. Saturday vs. Sunday
Ask the venue if there are any differences in cost or packages provided between Friday evening, Saturday "day", Saturday evening and Sunday "day or Sunday evening.  Typically most couples want an evening wedding, but if you can save say $2,000 by doing a Friday or Sunday "day" wedding - heck that's $2,000 toward something else!

Minimum Requirements
Most venues have minimums - that means the minimum revenue or number of guests they will book an event for.  Find out what their minimums are for the date you are looking for.  Also find out if the minimums vary from the date, time of day and time of the year.  If they have a minimum of 100 people and you think you might have 125 go the 100.  You can always add more later, but you can't take away after the contract is signed. If you end up having less than 100 guests and have already signed the contract, you will still be charged for those people. Again, these minimum requirements could save you money…

Holding the date until you visit the venue
Some venues will and some venues won't hold your date until you see the actual venue.  It doesn't hurt to ask.  However, if you ask them to hold the venue and they do be courteous to them and keep your appointment.  If you aren't interested don't string them along.  Be honest and let them know they can release the date.  You don’t want them to lose business and another bride may want your date.

Gratuity and Tax
Ask your venue if gratuity is included and what the tax percentages are and what they are applied to.  It doesn't hurt to ask to get a sample breakdown for an event your size.  Also "Service Charge" is NOT the same thing as gratuity!  In most cases the "Service Charge" is the minimum pay for the wait staff, bartenders and captains.  Therefore, ask the venue what their staff typically gets tipped.  Remember, the people waiting on you don't just live on pay alone.  Factor their tips into the overall budget and cost - this isn't an area you want to skimp!

Negotiating Cost
It never hurts to negotiate, I do it on a daily basis.  The key here is to be reasonable…You can always ask if they will lower the minimum guest count, the cost per person or if they will waive the chefs captain fee.  But don't start asking them for the price per person amount they charge in December for a wedding in June. (June is the busy season for weddings, so prices will typically be more expensive). You might be able to negotiate the deposit amounts due or ask if they can divide them into more payments. Just remember negotiating is a give and take so be reasonable about it.

Payment
Find out how the venue expects payment.  Some will take a credit card (I know you want those miles for your honeymoon) for the deposit but only a certified bank check for the remaining payments.  Find out and see what they say.  In most cases this is non-negotiable.

Rebooking
When booking your date find out what will happen if you have to change the date.  Unforeseen things can happen so you want to have a bit of flexibility.  If you have to rebook will you lose money, is there an additional cost involved to change the date? Find out what the details are and get them in writing in your contract. 

Hidden Cost
This is one area most clients don’t think of.  For example here in NYC there may be security and fire marshal costs that are in addition to what you are paying per person.  Some loading docks are union and cost more to open early for your florist to load in and stay open later for your band to load out.  Find out what those costs are and get those in your contract as well. You don't want to find out later on that your vendors don't have enough time to set up and to break down, and then be charged with pesky overtime fees.

Union
Some venues have union staff, so find out if your venue is one of these.  If so, what happens in the event the union goes on strike the day of your wedding.  Will the venue rebook at no additional cost?  Will they cover the cost to rebook your favorite band?  All this should be spelled out in the venues contract, but it's always a good thing to ask!

Coat Check
Find out if Coat Check is included in the price per person and if not what is the cost per person. In some cases I've been able to negotiate the coat check out of the contract especially if the wedding is in one of the warmer months. But remember, if there is a cold snap and guests bring jackets this may be added to your final bill.  The coat checkers have to get paid too!

So that is it for now....be sure to check back for 11 more tips in Part Two on Monday!

Have a fabulous weekend and if you are in NYC, enjoy the snow!

Cheers!
Shawn